Yeehaw! Mikey’s Road to the TED Talk continues in Austin

Episode 110:
Yeehaw! Mikey’s Road to the TED Talk continues in Austin


This is an episode for: aspiring speakers, presenters or anyone that has to do public speaking against their will.

Molly Geoghegan, Narrative Strategist

Molly Geoghegan

Feb 29, 2024

Presentation Nation, by our 110th episode, you may well be aware that we worship at the stage of presentations. 

And as Mikey Mioduski, co-host of the pod and founder of GhostRanch Communications, has started to speak at more and more events, we feel it only right to dissect the ins and outs of his preparation, execution and how many laughs he got while speaking.

His latest speaker appearance was at the Product Marketing Alliance Summit in Austin, TX and it was all about embracing the power of presentations! Mikey and Molly discuss this recent experience, how the nerves change with new content to present and how to craft a good hook.

Have YOU spoken at an event (or are going to soon) and would like to talk to us about your presentation preparation, nerves and, of course, walkout song??

Let us know at

What's in the Spice Cabinet??


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Michael Mioduski  00:21

Welcome back to presentation thinking aka the storyteller Study Club, aka Molly. What are we talking about today?


Molly Geoghegan  00:31

Big old Texas, Texas Hold'em Beyonce, I am trying to do some kind of sports center ESPN reference, but it's not happening. But here we are in the post presentation tent or something where you have just presented last week at the product marketing Alliance summit PMI summit in Austin, Texas. And we've presentation listeners if you this is if this is your first time tuning in. This is an unofficial series that we like to tap into, which is Mikey's road to the TED Talk. So every time Mikey presents, we talked about how it went, what kind of, you know, preparation and such went into it. And with the goal of eventually ended up on that pretty red TED stage. So we want to check in and see, you know, presenting is such a crazy experience. And certainly if you've done it, you know, but it's different every time live audiences are crazy. And it's a fun thing to talk about. So if you are a presenter or a speaker, or aspiring speaker, listen on. And let's see if Mikey can learn a thing or two from my he's experience. Aspiring


Michael Mioduski  01:38

is a key word there, I don't want to come off as anywhere. I hope no one thinks that I actually think I could take a TED stage. And honestly, the thought of it gives me a big pit in my stomach. But we Molly and I, you know, we, at some point, realize presenting matters. If you want to grow your company, you know, gain authority, you can take a stage. And so traditionally, I'm an introvert, but started a company did more and more sales pitches and that kind of thing. And Molly over the years, we've talked and studied presentations and storytelling, and you know, I was like, Alright, we got to do this, we got to try to walk the walk. So over the last two years, a year and a half, two years, I have had the chance to try to get in front of more people actually work on the other side of presentations, because you know, what we do at ghost Ranch is work to support other people's presentations. And so now, yeah, I like this chance to break things down with you. I've tried, I think like three or four different, quote unquote, like keynotes, like a 30 minute, you know, like focused presentation for a general session at these conferences. This time we aired a new one. And that always freaks me out and like makes it a little harder to prepare, because it was like new material and, and structure and stuff, even though it's content, you know, deeply familiar with, but kind of tried a new stick and wanted to see if this one might have legs and you're gonna love the title where we landed with it Mali.


Molly Geoghegan  03:06

Okay, okay. I want to hear about it all. And I mean, just to validate as aspiring and nervousness that goes along with that, like, that's part of it, you know, so we want to check in on the nerves before the nerves afterwards and how you're feeling about it now. Are we gone? So yeah, okay, what did you talk about? What the heck was it called? What was the deal? Did you use a framework to create this presentation with the frameworks? Or did you bind it all? Or use


Michael Mioduski  03:29

the no framework framework? Probably, yeah. I don't know what you might call this one, blank slate gobbly. I'm sure we could call it a three act structure, maybe four. But ultimately, I wanted a good hook, I wanted to present some problems that the audience commonly faces and the reasons for those problems, and then introduce maybe a better way, you know, some call this the new bliss, some call this the Promised Land, whatever. But so ultimately, having worked a decade as a presentation partner to a lot of great marketers, we've picked up a few things over the years, right? Like, what I've learned is that nobody approaches presentations the same way everyone kind of does their own, like does it a little bit differently. And so, having worked a decade with many, many different business leaders and presenters, we've seen some good, bad and ugly and some some absolute, rare air like excellence. And so I wanted to present this room of 500 product marketers, with the fact like sort of an observation that over the years, I've seen a select few, like product marketers who really lean into this one medium that's all around us, and actually really try to make it better and take it further than others, even when it's something internal or seemingly, you know, like, lower visibility. These rare air product marketers, who really embrace PowerPoint, Google Slides slide where you really embrace presentation Since I've seen them, catapult their careers. So I've seen a product marketer go from PMM, you know, manager level to director to head to VP all the way to Chief Marketing Officer. And what I think you know, I don't think it's because they're good at pressing buttons and PowerPoint, but I do think it's because they take communication very seriously. And so what I wanted to do was show this audience best in class presentations, or approaches to pushing presentations further. And well, I called it lessons in presentation thinking, Molly. And so yeah, I was pretty stoked, like, Finally, where that all came together. I think we landed on sort of a structure that actually might have some legs because we can tell these many stories from the hero, the true heroes, like the people we've met along the way and kind of showcase some ways that they have tackled some common problems in the past. Yeah.


Molly Geoghegan  05:51

Oh, it's about time. It was lessons and presentation thinking. Great. Okay. So what was your What was your hook? How did you build that in?


Michael Mioduski  06:00

Oh, yeah. All right. Well, I was kind of all over the place here. But there's the day before Valentine's Day, and so kind of use that as a motif a little bit from the amazing illustrator. No, no, Flores, I was like, Yo, can you hook me up with some like, sensual, you know, like Shakespeare stuff, maybe some Cupid's some, some hearts. It's that. And so like, I really wanted to bring the audience in. And so I said, Alright, I'm here to talk about the most pervasive communication medium around us like something so in our face so common that we almost don't even see it anymore. And before we do that, I want to I want to do a little warm up, I want everyone to close your eyes. And like, Molly, please close your eyes. And I want you to think about something that you love listener. You know, think about something you love is a cat, you know, your favorite child breakfast tacos, you know, we were in Austin, Texas. Okay, now go a little deeper listener, think about something that you love, that nobody else seems to love that seems to get really taken for granted or like super underappreciated. Alright, so then, you know, kind of like, open up, open up back up here, you know, and then so I kind of told the audience like, then I showed a picture of my wife and my dog and my kids, you know, yeah, Rihanna. I think she's super underrated. I was like, you can have your Beyonce and your T Swift. I'm a Riri. Guy. And I said, like, one other weirdo thing that I love that I think is commonly like not really loved is advertising. And so I wanted to talk about Creative Advertising and how like, actually, most of it sucks to the point where we don't even see it. But every once in a while, you know, those sports center commercials would get us chuckling or, you know, you might actually remember something that got milk or whatever. So yeah, so I wanted to talk about advertising as pay like, advertising was so all around us that we almost don't see it. But once in a while, someone's tries a little harder, and they are remembered for it. And so that was effectively, I talked about how I wanted to go into advertising got into b2b. At first that gave me the creeps that I was going to be working on corporate slide where all day every day creeps but eventually fell in love with it called back to Riri. With a we fell in love in a hopeless place and said, You know, I like I'm here to profess my love for PowerPoint, and blah, blah, blah. So, yeah, it was like a little bit of a love story. Sort of. Yeah, when the I didn't see come in, but and then that helped me set up people who I've met who, who actually do take it further the way that, you know, the creative revolutionaries did in advertising, like these people are taking presentations further and actually like putting some creative juice into it and it's paying off for them and for their companies. Hell yeah.


Molly Geoghegan  08:37

Oh my god. Okay, so what I'm hearing is like, relatable audience engagement, boom. If we're doing a little audience analysis, you talk to them, you know, Valentine's Day, listen, cultural context, some you know, relevancy, and some silliness. Yeah, like just being kind of funny, relevant. You know, you love your family, of course. And Rihanna, said that she's, uh, she's getting your do but like, you know, she could be more when she drops that next album. I'll be so stoked, you know, I'm waiting for it. But yeah, absolutely. hooking them in with some relatability, some funniness and pop culture and then applying that to something that doesn't necessarily seem I mean, so much within the presentation thinking world off the cuff seems stale, and like, you know, doesn't have a lot of life to inject in it. Sure. But there is it's storytelling, right. And same with advertising. So I think that's a great translation. Wonderful. I love is you just simply applied that metaphor. And I know Yeah, I mean, I saw some of your I saw no knows our work. Oh, yeah. Throughout it. And I know your delivery is very relatable, even if you, you know, feel like you're still working on it and stuff like that. How did it feel like nerves before, during and after? How were they compared to previous times?


Michael Mioduski  09:51

After? Wonderful because I did get a couple chuckles And like peep there was a full room. You I found my people who were nodding their heads and like


Molly Geoghegan  09:59

you had the pre Lunch slot very key. Yeah, it was so people that I wasn't right


Michael Mioduski  10:03

before lunch. I wasn't I didn't have to make that. Yeah. Molly 100% of everyone who has to speak right before lunch acknowledges it. Sorry, I'm between you and lunch. That's so funny. Totally. But I didn't have to be that that guy. But it was a great, it was a prime spot. It was awesome. It was like 12 o'clock. You know, I think lunch was it was right at 30 minutes. And so yeah, I felt good about that. felt excited to finally get up there. And like, do it, of course, nervous that morning. The most nervous I was was like a week before, when I just felt like it wasn't coming. I was like, oh my god, like, it's not coming together yet. And so this really was a scramble toward the end, like I knew I had, I got too deep into all this different research that was like, I must have bought like, 10 new books about the history of advertising, right? Like, because I was like pulling on that thread, and going nowhere to actually move the presentation forward. And Megan, you know, my beloved wife, my ride or die was like, she's my speaker coach on this. And she's just like, your slides are fine. She's like, Stop fiddling with the slides. You need to like, talk out loud. Because like, yeah, yeah, cuz when I tried it with her, I was like, Oh, my gosh, you know, like, it was like two weeks before a disaster. It was all over the place. She's like, where's this going? Basically, like, so about a week before? When it was still heading? Really, I hadn't really, like found that anchor of like, or like the real structure. I was. I was like, honestly getting nauseous because I didn't. I was really worried. It was just like, What if I get up there? And I'm like, I don't know what I'm gonna say, you know, because I'm trying to say too many things.


Molly Geoghegan  11:29

Yeah, there's a difference for me between I feel like I'm someone that can improv and wing a lot of things. But if I don't, if I truly don't know, but that only happens when I can wing something I know really well around the content, the content and the context. And if I don't know it, like if I haven't decided the direction is absolutely I always carry flair men who wrote Okay, Seven Deadly Sins of presenting who we had the pleasure of having our story camp last summer. And on this podcast, one of his sins is akin to rambling he is clever names for each of them. But the absolute, just directionless movement through a presentation with no debt with no purpose is something I could easily fall into if I was just pulling down a pathway. Mikey, what I'm hearing is that we also gotta bring Megan on the cast to talk about your presentation.


Michael Mioduski  12:20

She drew cuts. Yeah, that'd be SC St. Yeah,


Molly Geoghegan  12:26

it's good to have someone that can be brought in at the job, relatively vulnerable stage, where you're like, oh, this might be absolute crap. But things rise to me. Next, yeah, well, I'm glad it came together. And that's a would you say, especially creating new presentation, unnecessary part of the process where you are Kind of ambling downs and pathways that might not make it to the final cut? Yeah,


Michael Mioduski  12:49

absolutely. I think you have to, I had way too much. Even like, two days before I was, I bet. I had probably 40 to 45 minutes worth of material. And so then I just started cutting and cutting and cutting. And it did come to about 28 minutes. 28 and a half of a 30 minute spot said no, no time for q&a. I was fine with that. Okay, I probably should have tried to get it to 25 to entertain some some back and forth. But actually, I got in everything I wanted to say. And but yeah, I think Daniel Barnes from our episode, what was it 10709 just came out oh nine, who is the CEO of women's talk design. She's got a new book coming out called present yourself. And yeah, one of the core themes you and I picked up on in getting through about halfway through the book was you have to show your work and you actually have to work with people. It's like, tried she she advocates for you to not try to present so low and go through the process alone, but bring people in and so yeah, bringing in Megan was super helpful for me finally, and she really was like, like, my accountability. Coach throughout.


Molly Geoghegan  13:56

Shout out to Meghan. Thank you, Meg. Yeah. Thanks, Miss bluesky.


Michael Mioduski  13:59



Molly Geoghegan  14:00

that's, that's great. Okay, so no q&a. I was gonna ask about that. But you said there was some audience laughs I know. You're a funny guy you like to include? Yeah, pop culture references, lots of funny gifts. Anything like did you have any media? Any walkout songs? No.


Michael Mioduski  14:15

I couldn't get a walkout song. I couldn't convince the guy. I know. I had. We'll talk about that in the spice cab effect.


Molly Geoghegan  14:22

We'll save Yeah,


Michael Mioduski  14:23

I had one clip Yeah, actually had a clip. Steph Curry as you know listener if you don't know who Steph Curry is he's a basketball player very famous Hall of Fame in the making two time MVP plays for the Golden State Warriors. I talked about him a lot because allegedly he had a brand of shoe. And when you know that that brand tried to re up his endorsement deal. They didn't give him a very compelling or good presentation. And he went with another company to you know, it was like a big swing monetarily for infamous so both of those companies. Yeah. But anyway, so I found this like when I was talking about my love for funny commercials. I showed this really funny Sports Center commercial from way back where Steph Curry's in the in the ESPN office and, and he he cracks out, he's just like, oh, man, I can't believe it. You guys must have been watching last night. And he goes up to the door at lunch, and he's got his lunch tray. And he walks up. And he's just like, can't believe it. They're serving chicken curry that day. And he's like, you know, he thinks it's all about him. He's like, You guys must have seen my 27 points last night. And it's just hilarious. We'll link to it. But anyway, because yeah, so So there was that commercial. And then I was going to show our little Jurassic Park. But you know, but instead, I was getting too long winded to talk about how you don't actually have to show so much of your product. If you're giving a product demo, you can actually just build things up with excitement, anticipation and story instead. So yeah, you know, that's when we have for a longer sesh Molly. But this time, I just talked about jaws and how only 3% of a movie about a shark actually showed a shark and it worked out. Okay. Right.


Molly Geoghegan  16:02

Love it. Yeah. And you're I mean, we've, we've talked about that a little bit, and I've stolen that bit for one of the few presentations I've done. That's this example of really honing in that you don't have to talk about yourself before you talk about the audience. And like the actual thing itself, like the purpose of something, right. And a great example, talking about how Jaws really only has a few minutes of shark time, or drastic Park only has a few minutes of dinosaur time. And these are becoming your little modular, yeah, you know, micro stories to like, whenever it fits into a presentation, you can kind of piece things together, because you're creating your own library of like, presentation bits, basically. Yeah. Does it feel does it feel like that to you? It's kind of becoming a little clearer. Yeah,


Michael Mioduski  16:46

yeah. And now this one felt like I got enough positive feedback afterward. And it felt so smooth for me like to deliver it in this structure, because, essentially, I introduced the concept of presentation thinking, and that there are certain presentation thinkers out there who pushed the medium, you know, they don't just hit the basics and go through the motions, but they actually really elevate their companies and their careers by embracing the three pillars of presentation thinking, which became the structure for that, the rest of the talk, but that was storytelling, visualization, and personalization, aka s VP, because if you embrace these things, you will be the next SVP of your, you know, your marketing or your product marketing. So Senior Vice President, you know, so aspirational, but like true, we've seen people accelerate. And so yeah, Molly, like, then since I had these three categories, I was able to find some stories that fit into each one. And I think each of those will be little stories and vignettes that we can tell, you know, by themselves, we could lump them into any of these three buckets for future keynotes. We could build this to an hour long keynote, half an hour 45. I think it's got the structure to just like we could add or subtract where we need to based on how much time do we have? And like, who's the audience? So yeah, I actually feel like we've found a core topic that we're passionate about, and that has like a ton of modularity built into it. That's


Molly Geoghegan  18:11

awesome. SVP storytelling, visualization and personalization, right?


Michael Mioduski  18:17

Yeah. In the personalization, I was like, I wanted to call it more like contextualization, or like a tailored delivery. For the right, you know, like for the right audience, but personalization, I, you know, I'm a sucker for trying to force an acronym says SPG, personalization, whatever,


Molly Geoghegan  18:33

at all costs. Yes, absolutely. No. And you I mean, you have a great quote from I think, McKinsey and Company talking about how personalization in any product or service sells X amount of times more, right, I can't remember, but I remember the quote, or remember the point of the the point of the quote, and I mean, SVP fits so well into what we talk about with when we're writing TED Talks and stuff and talking about how presentations go in general, because we're talking about the storytelling, we're talking about the visual aspects, like slides, props, whatever kind of things they used. And then delivery, which I think is often the personalization. You're talking about Valentine's Day, I'm sure you made a reference to Texas like being in Austin, whatever. Yeah, PMA is like such a community. So I'm sure there's lots of things you can pull from there. So what was some of the feedback you said, you get some fun positive feedback where some nuggets,


Michael Mioduski  19:18

just you're walking back at people like good shot, that was amazing, you know? No, that's kind of like you have to say that but then we'll high five are, you know, the head of our contact at Product Marketing light said they just got a ton of input. So it wasn't to me so that people didn't have to say it but yet the sort of the content manager who was backstage related to our guy, Harry that it was just a, it was different. And they just got a lot of positive. I don't I don't have any verbatims Molly, but let's just say, I'm sure wasn't direct. I got the next day from two people was like, Man, you had a lot of slides. So I don't know if that was sort of like not more of a This but like, Damn, it was hard to keep up with. So I bet it could have been, I want to rewatch it and see if it was a little too frenetic and like, too fast, cuz like some of my pacing was probably like, by the time if someone was trying to take a picture of a slide like I probably had blown right by it, you know. So I do think there's probably a benefit for me to stop and evaluate. And maybe you and I can do some analysis to be like, I could stretch something out here or


Molly Geoghegan  20:24

let it linger instead of like, that's on my mind a little bit. Yeah, sure, sure. And I think as a designer, you have a lot of cool ideas for how to execute your ideas, font, like fun and relatable ways. So I wonder if there's just a way to kind of pare that back to what the core truly is, because it's so yeah, and we're super comfortable at ghost Ranch, we know that more slides doesn't mean like, more problems, more slides is often really helpful because people are usually constricting themselves to maybe 10 And then shoving all the text on there. So the opposite end of that is making 100 slides right to tell something quite simple that you might not need to write. So yeah, as building on building on itself. And yeah, that makes


Michael Mioduski  21:03

sense. Like to show rather than tell like, what can we just while we're talking here, what could just be supporting you back, so that they can kind of like interlink and like I get it. That's cool.


Molly Geoghegan  21:14

Any speakers that you saw at the summit? That had some cool things you never seen before? Any things that stood out? Anything that made you laugh, clap, cry, laugh, clap, cry? Maybe that's our, our audience Elde net.


Michael Mioduski  21:30

And I see Yeah, left, left,


Molly Geoghegan  21:34

left, crap, gray. Left, clap.


Michael Mioduski  21:36

Like there was some really good panels, I'd say like, devoid of slides. But just Sure. I'm always a sucker for the ones where they you have like three or four seasoned b2b marketers up on stage talking about storytelling, like there's always a token storytelling panel, you know, roundtable, I think they did a good job at this conference of doing breakouts and conversational roundtables. Because, you know, eight keynotes or, you know, like, presentations in a day can get a little tiring, right. And so, like, they really tried to facilitate conversations and networking. And so they would, I think there was two or three different times where the whole session for 30 minutes was, alright, we're gonna have four different tables in the room. You know, if you want to talk about personalization meet up here, if you want to talk about launch strategy over here, yada, yada. And so I think people get so much out of that. And I know, Molly, you're heading to a conference in April, that seems to be bringing that same beat in and saying like, it's not just going to be presentations, it's going to be some guided conversation.


Molly Geoghegan  22:40

Yeah, I think a big part of it is giving the attendees time to talk to each other, like networking and that kind of thing. So I'm excited to see, of course, like some of the keynotes and speakers, but I'm excited to see how they facilitate that. Because easier said than done, but really, right, I think yeah, a vital part of like any conference, I thought story conference did that really well. Something that was a little more like, the creative side. And yeah, bit like you could tell they had built a community. And I've been to a PMA event. And I do think they've done that. So you can have this air of like, oh, yeah, I've talked to that guy, while we were eating and that, like see him on the panel. And now I'm like, feeling like I have, I'm having a conversation with him. There's like this. It's not super formal, which I think helps people feel that they're participating in a more authentic way. You know, it's not a huge, it's also not an enormous help. It wasn't a huge conference, right? Huge Summit. No,


Michael Mioduski  23:32

maybe there's a couple they assemble a couple of different happenings all at one venue, but our room, maybe it was like 150 people total, like attending the product marketing version of it. Perfect.


Molly Geoghegan  23:43

All right. Well, you know, what we got to do now? We got up and this Vice Cabinet, because if you brought in Rihanna to this talk, yeah. I got to know what you would have liked me would have picked for your walkout song. Should you have been given the opportunity, and maybe at a future talk with this same deck with the same talk? Well,


Michael Mioduski  24:04

I did want since I already embedded, we found a love in a hopeless place. Oh, perfect. Yeah. Rihanna, Calvin Harris. That's a great thing to go. Yeah. But the one I actually wanted to walk out to was Crosby, Stills Nash. Love the one you're way off because Valentine's Day, look, I know it's not sexy, PowerPoint, Google Slides, especially man. But if you're working b2b, anything marketing, even in b2c like business to consumer. You still have these internal presentations. You've got board meetings, you need to convince people to buy into your ideas. And it's just so happens this slide where is the it is how we communicate, right? And so it's like Oh, yeah, I know it's the bar is low. I know there's death by PowerPoint, all that. But if you can learn to love it, you will do wonderful things for your audience and for yourself and for your career and your organization. It is kind of contagious. Molly. Like we've seen this with a couple clients where there's like one advocate or champion for better presentations at an org. And they start walking the walk and other people start to take notice. And they're like, Oh, can I have that slide and they start to use it and they start to try to like want to do better. And so it can't be this like virtuous cycle. But it starts with one person who has to like, love the one you're with, you know, yeah,


Molly Geoghegan  25:38

we're evangelizing PowerPoint over here. That's it's cold. Yeah, yeah. Love the one you're with cute. I love Crosby. stills. Nash. Yeah, do? Yes. It's a Friday Exactly. Like,


Michael Mioduski  25:50



Molly Geoghegan  25:51

PowerPoint, you love it. Come on, while you have the chance to do it.


Michael Mioduski  25:55

Renew your vows.


Molly Geoghegan  25:59

That always works totally. You know, we were having a great time last week, two weeks ago, making Valentine's puns for PowerPoint. So that's something I'm never not going to post as social media content. Yeah, for our feed. So if you're in need of that, and come, come follow along, we're happy to help love on PowerPoint in whatever way you need. What


Michael Mioduski  26:22

else is going on at the ranch? I feel like you and Asha are working on some some


Molly Geoghegan  26:27

things. This is a pretty spicy spice cabinet. Yeah. First of all, I want to just do it. Well, it's top of mind you already plugged this. But I'd love to plug the women talk design book called present yourself proven strategies for authentic and impactful public speaking. And that book is out for preorder. coming out March 11th. Just in our previous episode, Episode 109, we had a conversation with women talk design CEO Daniel Barnes. And this book, having just read the first few chapters that Mikey and I got as a little preview, Mikey said it himself, you know, got some great tips for building the story. lots of examples from different kinds of people that have been on the conference and presentation stage. So it's really, really helpful if you were aspiring speaker looking to just yet kind of like craft your craft your talk, craft your presentation, super actionable stuff in that book. So really excited to read more, I gotta get on the priority list. Actually, Molly,


Michael Mioduski  27:26

the book was like sort of demanded by everyone who was going to the workshop of the same name like so women talk design, have this eight week program to learn how to craft compelling presentations like in a cohort. And so, Molly, you were actually looking at enrolling and you might still do it later this year in your own path to the TED talk, right?


Molly Geoghegan  27:47

Totally an eight week, two month cohort about crafting your own presentation. It's called print out yourself same name as the book. I'll link that as well. And that starts in April. I think it's mid April. So February at the time of recording. So if you're listening to this, and it's not yet April of 2024. Go ahead and check out the link in the spice cabinet


Michael Mioduski  28:07

to more things to plug one. Leap Year. Leap Day is next week, next Thursday. There's also some crazy solar eclipse coming on April 8. Oh, cool. Look it up. If you're like between central Texas all the way up through like Central Indiana. There's this like hook we were in the 100% like we're gonna get like, totally blacked out on April 8 for like, four minutes. They canceled school for like, like, it's so it's like such a big deal. My dad was telling me all about it. It's like it's crazy couple 1000 year type Eclipse so wow. I


Molly Geoghegan  28:41

had no idea they canceled school on Monday to Monday. Yeah,


Michael Mioduski  28:45

just so the kids could go experienced this. It's Wow.


Molly Geoghegan  28:47

Okay, good to know, April 8, you guys, there's an eclipse and we will now be tracking the stars in our spice cabinet as well. Yes. You


Michael Mioduski  28:55

gotta go by those by those special glasses before because everyone's gonna scramble, you know, the two days before? Yeah,


Molly Geoghegan  29:01

true. You know, I'm going to be down heading down to Texas, around the time before my own conference. So maybe that's perfect, too. You should get different. Okay. And then the other thing happening at the end of March, we have our lunch and learn on breaker slides. This was the first time plugging it for the cast. Awesome. ranchero designer Colin hare go will be walking us through what breaker slides are how we can make them even more impactful how to not just skim over them. Breaker slides, if you're unfamiliar, are those divider slides that kind of transition from one section to the next. They might also be used for emphasis they might also be used for Yeah, like really, really showing off a piece of work or something. There's so many ways we can use them. And in fact, like it can be what really makes a presentation super impactful because there's so many visual opportunities. So if you are within the presentation design realm or even if you're just adjacent to it or wanting or find yourself working within slide were quite a lot. This is our part of our lunch and learn every slide counts. series where we'll be diving into a specific type of slide. That's March 27. Wednesday at 12pm. Eastern check it out on LinkedIn.


Michael Mioduski  30:08

Breaker breaker one nine. Yeah, we're excited. trucker link that'd be great. It's gonna be great.


Molly Geoghegan  30:13

There's some more stuff coming down the line for go strange events but you know, I'll hold that date a little bit longer. But keep it keep watch this space. Yeah, go You can see everything that's coming up. You can follow us on LinkedIn to Mikey Any parting shots?


Michael Mioduski  30:29

Love the one you're with? That's it. Molly, I don't have any to you. I gotta


Molly Geoghegan  30:33

go watch that. I feel like I got to go watch that Steph Curry clip and get a little more Psychology Center oriented for this next for our next post presentation play post. postgame I will send you three, three classic


Michael Mioduski  30:47

Sports Center commercials to plug in the in our on this episode. Yeah, spice cabinet. Yeah, and wonderful stuff. And


Molly Geoghegan  30:55

listen, if you're a speaker, and you are just getting into this and you want to break down and talk about your own experience and presenting on stage. Let us now well, we'll have you on. All


Michael Mioduski  31:07

right. Well, thank you for listening. Molly. This has been a pleasure and until next time, keep on pitching

About The Author

Molly Geoghegan, Narrative Strategist

Molly Geoghegan is a writer, organizer, and film school dropout. She hikes frequently with her dog, Guinness, and signs up for too many email newsletters. Having lived in Chicago, Paris, Dublin and Galway, Molly has made her way back to the Rockies and calls Denver, CO home.

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